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		<title>Raw Drum Reference Tracks</title>
		<link>http://www.hometracked.com/2007/09/19/raw-drum-reference-tracks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 23:05:17 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[&#8220;Reference tracks for better drum mixes&#8221; included a few drum-only passages captured from commercial recordings. 
The ideal drum reference tracks feature few other instruments, as musical instruments tend to mask frequencies in the snare and kick drums. But since drums aren&#8217;t often featured solo in pop and rock recordings, it can be tricky to find [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/kickdrum1.jpg" alt="Kick Drum" />&#8220;<a href="www.hometracked.com/2007/03/05/better-drum-mixes-with-a-drum-reference-track/">Reference tracks for better drum mixes</a>&#8221; included a few drum-only passages captured from commercial recordings. </p>
<p>The ideal drum reference tracks feature few other instruments, as musical instruments tend to mask frequencies in the snare and kick drums. But since drums aren&#8217;t often featured solo in pop and rock recordings, it can be tricky to find usable passages.</p>
<p>So these <a href="http://fuelfriends.blogspot.com/2007/08/dave-grohl-raw-drum-tracks-for-queens.html">raw tracks of Dave Grohl playing</a> on QotSA&#8217;s <em>Songs for the Deaf</em> should save some time! In fact, they might be the best commercial modern rock drum reference I&#8217;ve heard, as they sound like final mix stems, essentially the same drum mix used in the released track.</p>
<p>And for a classic sound, check out <a href="http://www.saladrecords.com/bonhamfiles.htm">raw John Bonham drum tracks</a>, outtakes from Zepplin&#8217;s <em>In Through The Out Door</em> sessions. Unlike Grohl&#8217;s samples above, these are compressed more than in the final album mixes, but they still make a great reference for tones and overall kit balance.</p>
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		<title>Using reverb for a heavier kick drum tone</title>
		<link>http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/05/using-reverb-for-a-heavier-kick-drum-tone/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 03:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Generally it&#8217;s best to avoid the use of heavy reverb on bass and kick drum tracks, since the extra reverberant low frequencies can quickly lead to a muddy sound. (Remember: Excessive bass causes amateur sounding tracks.)
But when used sparingly, a tight short reverb effect can add body and punch to a dull kick drum. This [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><img src="http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/kickdrum3.jpg" alt="Bass Drum" />Generally it&#8217;s best to avoid the use of heavy reverb on bass and kick drum tracks, since the extra reverberant low frequencies can quickly lead to a muddy sound. (Remember: Excessive bass causes <a href="http://www.hometracked.com/2006/12/22/10-hallmarks-of-amateur-recordings/">amateur sounding tracks</a>.)</p>
<p>But when used sparingly, a tight short reverb effect can add body and punch to a dull kick drum. This is especially useful in home recordings where the drums are often dry samples, or tracks recorded in bedrooms and basements with poor live sound.<br />
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Here&#8217;s an example to illustrate how reverb can beef up a bass drum. As I mentioned in <a href="http://www.themorningrain.com/?p=55">The Morning Rain post</a> from which I took the sample, I used a no-nonsense mic arrangement: Stereo room mics, a single mic on the kit, and an SM58 in the kick drum. </p>
<p>Here are the drums as recorded, with the kick drum track untreated:<div class='embeddedMP3'><embed src='http://media.hometracked.com/bin/mp3player.swf' width='300' height='20' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' flashvars='file=http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/alldrums-noverb.mp3&showdigits=true' />&nbsp;<span style='position:relative;top:-5px;'><a href='http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/alldrums-noverb.mp3'>[download MP3]</a></span></div></p>
<p>In the next sample, I added a short reverb tail to the kick drum only. I used the <a href="http://www.kjaerhusaudio.com/classic-series.php">Kjaerhus Classic Reverb</a> for this example (though there are a few other free reverb effects listed in the <a href="http://www.hometracked.com/2007/01/11/best-free-vocal-plugins/">great free vocal plugins</a> post, including Mac-based options.) I set a room size of 65 square meters, dampened as many high frequencies as possible, and blended the signal on the dry side. </p>
<p><img src="http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/classicreverbsettings-small.gif" /></p>
<p>Here&#8217;s how it sounds:<div class='embeddedMP3'><embed src='http://media.hometracked.com/bin/mp3player.swf' width='300' height='20' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' flashvars='file=http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/alldrums-withverb.mp3&showdigits=true' />&nbsp;<span style='position:relative;top:-5px;'><a href='http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/alldrums-withverb.mp3'>[download MP3]</a></span></div></p>
<p>The effect is subtle, but obvious. </p>
<p>Though it&#8217;s more obvious in the solo&#8217;d kick drum track. The first 3 hits in this next sample are dry, and the last 3 have the reverb applied. Notice how dead the kick drum sounds by itself (I recorded it with an SM58, after all,) and how much more body there is to the tone with reverb applied:<div class='embeddedMP3'><embed src='http://media.hometracked.com/bin/mp3player.swf' width='300' height='20' type='application/x-shockwave-flash' pluginspage='http://www.macromedia.com/go/getflashplayer' flashvars='file=http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/kickdrum-solo.mp3&showdigits=true' />&nbsp;<span style='position:relative;top:-5px;'><a href='http://www.hometracked.com/wp-content/uploads/kickdrum-solo.mp3'>[download MP3]</a></span></div></p>
<p>Some notes about this technique:</p>
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<li>It works best on sparse tracks, when the drum hits have space between them. If the track is already dense, adding reverb usually just yields mud.</li>
<li>It will work on miked or sampled kick drums, but it&#8217;s most effective on dry, flat sounds. Basically, if you&#8217;re stuck recording your kick drum with an SM57, a little reverb can work wonders to deliver usuable tones.</li>
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<div style="text-align:center;padding-bottom:0.5em"><strong>&#8230;</strong></div>
<p class="previouslink"><strong>Previously: </strong><a href="http://www.hometracked.com/2007/03/05/better-drum-mixes-with-a-drum-reference-track/">Better drum mixes with a drum reference track</a>, <a href="http://www.hometracked.com/2007/03/31/parallel-compression-for-fatter-drum-tones/">Parallel compression for fatter drum tones</a></p>
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		<title>Web forum digest &#8211; Bring out the kick</title>
		<link>http://www.hometracked.com/2006/05/19/ff-bring-out-kick/</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 19 May 2006 15:54:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[On homerecording.com, some tips for getting the kick drum to stand out in a mix.
Make sure your bass and kik drum center on two different notes on the bottom. Often I&#8217;ll like my kik to center at around 80Hz and the bass at either 60ish or 100-125ish.
See also this related thread with some tips on [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On homerecording.com, some <a href="http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=197952">tips for getting the kick drum to stand out</a> in a mix.</p>
<blockquote><p>Make sure your bass and kik drum center on two different notes on the bottom. Often I&#8217;ll like my kik to center at around 80Hz and the bass at either 60ish or 100-125ish.</p></blockquote>
<p>See also this related thread with some <a href="http://homerecording.com/bbs/showthread.php?t=137272">tips on clearly separating the kick drum and bass guitar</a>.</p>
<blockquote><p>Try running youe[sic] Bass guitar through a compressor, with the Kick Drum inserted in the Side-Chain. The Kick drum can than duck the bass signal win[sic] it is applied.</p></blockquote>
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