Comments on: Create a doubled stereo track from a mono source http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/ Home recording and project studio blog Wed, 09 Jul 2008 03:48:17 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.0.4 by: des http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-43975 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 21:39:24 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-43975 Yes, I concur <strong>:-)</strong> Yes, I concur :-)

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by: jeff robertson http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-43941 Thu, 14 Feb 2008 18:31:05 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-43941 I just stumbled across this article, and I wanted to say that for distorted electric guitar at least, this totally works and totally rocks. I propose that this technique should be referred to as "desheading". I just stumbled across this article, and I wanted to say that for distorted electric guitar at least, this totally works and totally rocks.

I propose that this technique should be referred to as "desheading".

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by: mlk http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-27886 Thu, 29 Nov 2007 09:31:44 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-27886 just record a second guitar you lazy nerdz just record a second guitar you lazy nerdz

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by: des http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-25163 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 10:00:12 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-25163 Kay, <em>Comp'ing</em> is short for <em>Compositiong</em> Basically, it's the process of building a single vocal (or instrumental) track from a collection of parts recorded in different takes. Electronic Musician details it far better than I could: http://emusician.com/special_report/art_vocal_comping/ Kay,

Comp'ing is short for Compositiong

Basically, it's the process of building a single vocal (or instrumental) track from a collection of parts recorded in different takes. Electronic Musician details it far better than I could: http://emusician.com/special_report/art_vocal_comping/

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by: Kay Kastum http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-25161 Fri, 16 Nov 2007 09:50:03 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-25161 Honestly I don't even know what's vocal comp'ing... is that 'compressing'? :P Honestly I don't even know what's vocal comp'ing… is that 'compressing'?
:P

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by: des http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-19892 Wed, 24 Oct 2007 00:55:56 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-19892 <em>> It does take a critical ear to mix and match the right sections, though.</em> Not to mention the importance of the material itself. I find it's much easier to fatten a distorted electric guitar part this way than a clean acoustic guitar, since the transients are more obvious in the latter case, which means you need to be careful how the parts line up. > <em>I used to think tracks had to be preserved</em> I hear ya. I think that mindset is still appropriate for certain styles of music - certainly anything with a "live" feel, like jazz and chamber music. But the studio-as-instrument approach to music has its place too, no question. > It does take a critical ear to mix and match the right sections, though.

Not to mention the importance of the material itself. I find it's much easier to fatten a distorted electric guitar part this way than a clean acoustic guitar, since the transients are more obvious in the latter case, which means you need to be careful how the parts line up.

> I used to think tracks had to be preserved

I hear ya. I think that mindset is still appropriate for certain styles of music - certainly anything with a "live" feel, like jazz and chamber music. But the studio-as-instrument approach to music has its place too, no question.

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by: roymond http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-19800 Tue, 23 Oct 2007 15:57:54 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-19800 This is a great article, Des. I think most people, once they get into editing like this, will pick it up pretty quickly. It does take a critical ear to mix and match the right sections, though. I used to think tracks had to be preserved, and takes recorded end-to-end, etc. Now I consider the recording/production process as an equal to songwriting and performing. Go to an open mike to get your ya-yas out playing end-to-end. In the studio, pick up the scissors and cut, baby! These kinds of techniques can truly transform your recordings. And when a listener hears something special, does he really care whether you "cheated"? I think not. Go ask George Martin. This is a great article, Des. I think most people, once they get into editing like this, will pick it up pretty quickly. It does take a critical ear to mix and match the right sections, though.

I used to think tracks had to be preserved, and takes recorded end-to-end, etc. Now I consider the recording/production process as an equal to songwriting and performing. Go to an open mike to get your ya-yas out playing end-to-end. In the studio, pick up the scissors and cut, baby! These kinds of techniques can truly transform your recordings. And when a listener hears something special, does he really care whether you "cheated"? I think not. Go ask George Martin.

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by: des http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-8492 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 14:55:10 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-8492 Kay, it totally depends on the material. Sometimes you can grab a whole verse as one section, and it takes no time at all. And in general, even with more varied material, I find it takes no more time than, say, vocal comp'ing. Kay, it totally depends on the material. Sometimes you can grab a whole verse as one section, and it takes no time at all.

And in general, even with more varied material, I find it takes no more time than, say, vocal comp'ing.

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by: Kay Kastum http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-8272 Mon, 17 Sep 2007 08:07:06 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-8272 Wow, it does sound fuller and richer. But I guess this will definitely be time consuming for longer songs huh? Wow, it does sound fuller and richer. But I guess this will definitely be time consuming for longer songs huh?

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by: des http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-720 Tue, 05 Jun 2007 20:20:41 +0000 http://www.hometracked.com/2007/06/01/create-a-doubled-stereo-track-from-a-mono-source/#comment-720 That's great Bob, glad it worked for you. <em>> I’ve messed it up many times, actually I don’t think I’ve ever done it > and not found the cut noticeable, esp. if you know it’s there.</em> Ya, I know what you mean. I've also found, though, that the effect is minimal when you cut like this for double-tracking, because details that stand out on one track by itself tend to be masked when you blend in the second track. I've also found that playing with the end-points of the clips a little can add transparency. Like, on track 1 I'll slide the clip overlap left a few ms, and on track 2 move it right a few ms. That way the edit points no longer line up exactly between tracks, which can further help hide the sound of the edit. That's great Bob, glad it worked for you.

> I’ve messed it up many times, actually I don’t think I’ve ever done it
> and not found the cut noticeable, esp. if you know it’s there.

Ya, I know what you mean. I've also found, though, that the effect is minimal when you cut like this for double-tracking, because details that stand out on one track by itself tend to be masked when you blend in the second track.

I've also found that playing with the end-points of the clips a little can add transparency. Like, on track 1 I'll slide the clip overlap left a few ms, and on track 2 move it right a few ms. That way the edit points no longer line up exactly between tracks, which can further help hide the sound of the edit.

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