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	<title>Comments on: Web forum digest &#8211; Myths, guitars, and Nickelback</title>
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		<title>By: des</title>
		<link>http://www.hometracked.com/2006/12/29/web-forum-digest-122906/comment-page-1/#comment-762</link>
		<dc:creator>des</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 11 Jun 2007 13:08:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, Simulanalog Guitar Suite is cool, poorsod. Thanks for the pointer.</description>
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		<title>By: poorsod</title>
		<link>http://www.hometracked.com/2006/12/29/web-forum-digest-122906/comment-page-1/#comment-727</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 06 Jun 2007 19:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;d differ with that bloke about digital amp-sims.

My first example is the Simulanalog Guitar Suite. They&#039;ve got their tone down to less than -40dB of difference to the classic original stompboxes and amps (mathematically provable). And that&#039;s on test tones, which as we all know always accentuate any audible problems tenfold - after all, that&#039;s the point of them.

My other case in point is Guitar Rig 2, and this is where I insult all the &#039;golden ears&#039; bearded fellows. I would say any lack of realism that can be found using GR2 is down to a bad patch programmer. The tones found in GR2s devices are audibly very close to DIed real-world equipment - most of the problems arrive at the cabinets-and-mics stage, that is, the very beginning and end. People choose inappropriate mics, cabinets, and cabinet sizes, and stack them up when they don&#039;t need to. Suddenly they&#039;ve made a mess of a serviceable chain.
Of course it pays to know exactly what you&#039;re doing with the sound from the start, and experience with the devices help too. Ultimately it&#039;s the entire rig that processes the sound so if you chain the devices badly, or worse use the wrong devices altogether, you&#039;re going to get ugly guitars. Crap in, crap out.

As a little test, I&#039;d like to do a double-blind test with some people that say they can hear the difference between a well-written GR2 patch (with a DIed guitar) and an identical hardware chain.</description>
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<p>My first example is the Simulanalog Guitar Suite. They&#8217;ve got their tone down to less than -40dB of difference to the classic original stompboxes and amps (mathematically provable). And that&#8217;s on test tones, which as we all know always accentuate any audible problems tenfold &#8211; after all, that&#8217;s the point of them.</p>
<p>My other case in point is Guitar Rig 2, and this is where I insult all the &#8216;golden ears&#8217; bearded fellows. I would say any lack of realism that can be found using GR2 is down to a bad patch programmer. The tones found in GR2s devices are audibly very close to DIed real-world equipment &#8211; most of the problems arrive at the cabinets-and-mics stage, that is, the very beginning and end. People choose inappropriate mics, cabinets, and cabinet sizes, and stack them up when they don&#8217;t need to. Suddenly they&#8217;ve made a mess of a serviceable chain.<br />
Of course it pays to know exactly what you&#8217;re doing with the sound from the start, and experience with the devices help too. Ultimately it&#8217;s the entire rig that processes the sound so if you chain the devices badly, or worse use the wrong devices altogether, you&#8217;re going to get ugly guitars. Crap in, crap out.</p>
<p>As a little test, I&#8217;d like to do a double-blind test with some people that say they can hear the difference between a well-written GR2 patch (with a DIed guitar) and an identical hardware chain.</p>
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